@jalcine I asked about this a while ago on birdsite, and I got a lot weird pushback from FOSS people.
One of them was "how do you define ethical behaviour?" and like, I don't know, but I'd like to think the way ICE treats children and families should count as unethical.
And most of all, what's wrong with at least trying to formulate a definition that at least excludes some of the horrible things organisations get up to
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